The Lake of Fire and the New Creation...Day 23

A few months before I had swallowed the red pill of preterism I had begun editing and producing a teaching program called "Reality," with Pastor Britt Merrick. For those surfers of you out there you might recognize his name. He is the son of Al Merrick, founder of Channel Island surfboards. Britt is the pastor and founder of a church located in Carpinteria California by the same name as his radio program...Reality. I thought that this was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Not only did I get to listen to some great teaching...But I was also getting paid to do it. 8)

Before Britt began his own church he was a youth pastor at a Calvary Chapel Santa Barbara. And so of course this meant that his teaching style pretty much lined up with Calvary Chapels distinctives. Which was great...Until I embraced a fulfilled view of eschatology. 8( And I must admit that it was kind of hard at first to sit and listen to hour after hour of teaching that I no longer agreed with. However...One of the unforeseen benefits of this was that it actually helped reinforce the fulfilled view that I was quickly learning about. Funny thing about this whole thing is that he spends a lot of time in his teaching proclaiming the typical pre-millenial futurist point of view. Matter of fact the most popular of his teachings was his end-times series. And here I was...A preterist...Producing one of the most popular programs airing on Calvary Chapel owned radio stations around the world. Helping promote a view that I felt was misleading. Eventually this would be one of the deciding factors as to my leaving the station.

O.k. So it had been about three weeks now since I had come to understand a fulfilled view of eschatology. I had just finished making my way through the New Testament, line upon line, verse by verse and I had some more questions. The one that I chose to address first was found in Revelation 22. It was the freshest of all seeing as how I had just finished reading the book. From the futurist perspective, Revelation 22 describes the conditions of a time in the future after Jesus returns, after the great white throne judgment takes place and after sin and death are destroyed and creation is remade anew. Basically a new creation in which righteousness dwells and sin and death has been eradicated. Yet I couldn't reconcile this with what I was seeing in Revelation 22.

Revelation 22:1-3 And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding from the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding its fruit every month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him.

And so I thought...Wait a minute. If the curse had been reversed and sin had been dealt with why was there still any need for "healing of the nations?"

The next problem I encountered was just a few verses later. Verses 14-15.

Revelation 22:14-15 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.

If this passage is to be understood quite literally we then have a major problem. You see...This passage is describing the New Jerusalem that is part of the new creation that takes place after the judgment in which sin, death and the devil have been eradicated and yet there are still, "dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie," outside the gates of the New Jerusalem.

And so I approached one of the pastors on staff that was teaching in our school of ministry with this conundrum of sorts. I first asked him about these leaves that were for the healing of the nations found in Revelation 22:2. He said, "I think it is better understood as they are for continual health rather than actual healing...You see, at this point they are in the new creation. There is no more sin therefore it can't be understood in a wooden literal sense."

I then asked him who these people were that are outside the city. His answer was that this was a picture of the eternal state of those that had died the second death. That is, those that had not accepted Christ before the last day. He pointed me back just one chapter to Revelation 21:8 "But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

I said, "Wait a minute...If Revelation 22 is painting a picture of the eternal state beyond the great white throne judgment and the second death then how is it these people are still alive outside the gates the New Jerusalem?"

And he said, "Well you see...If being inside the New Jerusalem is the destination of those that believed then outside the gates would be the abode of those that didn't believe...The lake of fire."

And then I responded with Revelation 22:14 "Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city."

And then I said, "And who is outside the gates?"

He smiled and said, "Well...We need to be careful to not press the analogy too far." Or something to that effect. He smiled, turned and briskly walked away. Sigh...<---Long drawn out sigh. 8) It was passages like these that couldn't be satisfactorily answered within a futurist framework of interpretation that would eventually drive the final nail in the coffin of the "Left Behind" theology that I had been holding to so tightly.

Soon, Near and At Hand...Day 20

As I continued to research further into this method of interpretation that was new to me the more I realized that this was nothing new at all. The more time I spent researching the fulfilled view of eschatology, the more I realized that I had quite simply missed the boat regarding this view as I had been studying the end times over the last couple of years. I had heard the term preterism before and simply laughed it off as absurd but now, somehow, something had changed. Why was it that this understanding that was new to me was now ringing through my head as true? Maybe it was because of many many hours of study that left me frustrated. Maybe it was because of someone like Hank Hanegraaff, whom I respected highly for his work on the radio, that had accepted some form of preterism that helped me see past my own desires of upholding the futurist view that I had been holding to so tightly. Then again, maybe it was something as simple as God's will and His timing. Either way a new season in my life had begun and my life would never be the same.

And so with each and every passing morning that I was working at the radio station I began to look deeper and further into the preterist view of eschatology. Although I must say...I almost felt kind of funny doing this research while working at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa. The reason why is because of some recent changes that they had made to their network at the church. You see...CCCM is a huge church. And when you add up all of the hundreds of different people that work there in all of the different ministries that have access to their computer network and the internet it was pretty clear why they had just recently added Websense to the network. Websense is a security and monitoring software that tracks where everyone that has permission to be on the network has been. That and block certain things that most churches don't want their staff looking at.

And so here I was full of excitement for this new path that I was traveling down and wanting to search every corner of the world wide web, scooping up every morsel of knowledge on the subject that I could find...And now they would be keeping track of every step I took. Doh!!! 8)

At first I was a little apprehensive. I didn't want them to see that I was spending so much time looking at websites about something that was so fundamentally different from what Calvary Chapel taught. Now mind you...I wasn't by any means letting this research keep me from doing my job. If you remember being on-air leaves you with a lot of spare time. Although I must say...my studies for the school of ministry did take a slight turn for the worse. Not to much though. I had already gotten so far ahead on so much of my work that I was able to coast for a while.

And so after a few days I got over my Websense related apprehension. And I was off doing tons of research on the topic of preterism and of course like most people I've spoken to, that had come to a preterist view of the end-times, I was pretty excited and wanted to tell everyone. And so I did. Kind of quietly at first. I started printing out pages here and there. Asking pointed questions related to the time statements found in the opening and closing chapters of Revelation. But most of the people I was talking to...Other School of Ministry students, had a lot on their plates and didn't really have the time to dedicate to this kind of thing or they really just didn't care. Eschatology was not their gig...They'd say things like, "I'm not worried about it too much...It's all gonna pan out in the end."

Needless to say I was really kind of surprised how little interest most people had. And those that would listen to me almost always had a question that I wasn't ready for at this point in my journey. And that's about the time when I came across an article online by a guy named David A. Green. It was called "101 Preterist Time-Indicators for the Second Coming of Christ - From Preterism: 101."

When I finished reading this article I had to pick my jaw up off of the cold, laminated counter top in the studio and wipe up copious amounts of drool. <---A little too descriptive...Maybe??? Anyhow...I was absolutely shocked to see just how many time statements there were indicating that the last days events found in the New Testament were nothing other than soon, near and at hand. I had thought that surely with all of this fine evidence printed out and in hand that someone would see what I was seeing. And so what was the first response I got from one of my School of Ministry brothers. "Well of course the end was near...And it still is. 2 Peter 3:8 'But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.' It's only been a couple of days to God."

Clearly at this point my zeal was much stronger than my understanding of a fulfilled view of prophecy. And so I decided that I just needed to keep my mouth shut and study more.

The future was looking much brighter...Day 19

The future was looking much brighter. The doom and gloom of the futurist views that I had once held on to were now being replaced by a renewed sense of excitement in understanding the last days prophecies found in scripture as fulfilled quite victoriously within the time frame in which they were promised to take place.

Although...There I was...An employee of Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa. A church that holds to a very literal interpretation of the scriptures...That is literal, unless it leads to absurdity. And all of a sudden I am faced with the reality that my very literal view that I had been holding to was no longer holding the water that it once used to. Sigh...<---Long drawn out sigh. 8)

One of the best things about working the overnight shift at the radio station is that it gave me ample time to study. If you remember, this was the primary reason that I was able to work full time and go to the School of Ministry. That following night I got into the station a little early to get some of my nightly duties wrapped up before my on-air shift started. I then proceeded to get all of my required studying done for school so that I could get to work on studying this new found way of understanding the scriptures from a fulfilled perspective.

And so with a few quick keystrokes I was on my way to my favorite internet search engine...Google. I typed in the word preterism. Holy mackerel...Ten's of thousands of hits. And then I typed in preterist. There were even more hits than the previous search. How could I have missed this for so long. 8) Anyhow...One of the first pages that I came across was www.preterism.us. A website that no longer exists aside from that wonderful online utility known as "The Wayback Machine." On this website there were 19 articles by a guy named David B. Curtis, who serves as the pastor of Berean Bible Church, in Chesapeake, Virginia. And one by a guy named Don K. Preston. Don is a speaker, radio host, and author of many books.

And so I started reading the articles one after the other. I was barely able to tear my self away to take care of my on-air duties at the station. Everything I was reading was making complete sense and I was becoming more and more excited with each and every paragraph. All of the problems that I had reconciling different issues within the futurist framework of eschatology were quickly fading away. Mind you, these articles weren't small by any means. It probably took me three days to get through them all with everything else that I was doing.

That morning when Lee Davis came in he found me full of excitement and with eyes as bright as a red red rose from having spent all night staring into a computer monitor in a dimly lit studio, having probably blinked no more than 7 times. 8) While I was in school he too had read a number of the articles and had found himself just as intrigued as I had. The lively discussions that Lee and I had each morning as we went through all of the articles on the website made up for the many months of animosity that had been created by the fruitless arguments over the futurist views that we once held. The both of us were now experiencing a renewed sense of excitement for a study of the scriptures. We were both greeting each other every morning with new things that we were now seeing that we had somehow missed before.

Where the Bible had once been quite simply printed words in black and white, we were now seeing a new, vibrant and living narrative that was reconciling issues that had once caused much confusion.

A New Day Had Dawned...Day 16

And so...It was those three articles in day 15, that were the final straw that broke the camel's back. And guess what...I was that camel. It was four o'clock in the morning and let's just say that I was very glad that the programming at the station was music at that time. In other words it was pretty easy to just let things go into auto. What a long hour that was...

Five o'clock rolls around and Lee Davis walks into the studio. "Hey Buddy...What's up?" I said, "Lee...I know you don't want to talk about eschatology with me...And you don't even have to respond to what I am about to say... What if we were both wrong? What if we had both been looking at things from the wrong perspective?" And so I gave him a short rundown of what happened the day before and where my research based on my classmates statement about Hank Hanegraaff had led me. As well I left the three articles I had just read up on the computer for him to read. And it was because of these three articles that the animosity between us was completely shattered. All of a sudden so many things that had been such strong points of contention over the last few months had completely faded away. The idea that, "All things written," could have been fulfilled, in the first century, upon the generation that Jesus came to suddenly opened up a channel of dialog that had been closed for many months.

Six o'clock rolls around and our news director Brian Perez comes in for his morning shift. Brian and I had spent a little time now and then talking about various subjects. And so I felt rather comfortable sharing with him about the articles I had come across and what they could have meant. He was rather open to what I had to say. As any good news hound should be. 8) But he had to get to work and so did I.

Later that morning as I went to class I was rather distracted by the articles that I had read earlier. That along with the fact that I had a laptop with wireless that connected to the churches wireless didn't really help me focus on the classes that day. I was rather distracted to say the least. When my classes were finished I had plenty of questions to ask and I wasn't very concerned with who the recipients of my inquiries were. I was filled with a new and revived interest in a subject that had left me frustrated and stymied over the previous months leading up to this ill fated day.

I wanted some answers...

The changing tide of a world and life view...Day 15

Having charted out the end times was an arduous task to say the least. Along with this there was a book that we were required to read by Chuck Smith that I had actually read that previous summer. It was called, "The Tribulation and The Church." A very easy read. We also had a weekly lecture that was a general overview of all the differing views of eschatology. I was hoping for something a little more indepth regarding each view but our time was limited.

An example of this was, "And then there is the preterist view which understands the last days as something that took place in the first century. That the book of Revelation was speaking of the fall of Jerusalem in 70ad. Yet this could not be the case because it was written some 30 years later...And just look around...Clearly we're not in the new heavens and earth." <--Room fills with laughter.

So...It's not as though all or most of the different views weren't presented. They were. However in my opinion the presentation of the views that were different from that of Calvary Chapel's weren't presented in a very fair light. They weren't even necessarily demonstrated to be wrong as much as they were just summarily dismissed. But of course I just nodded my head as we moved on to the next topic. After the class was over there was the typical sporatic conversations going on around the room as you would find any other day. I was putting my books away when I heard one of my brothers say that he had heard something about Hank Hanegraaff. That he had changed his views on eschatology to some form of Amillenialism. This of course caught my ear. But I was in a hurry that day to grab my surfboard and hit the beach for a little wave action.

I guess no matter how important eschatology is to me, surfing will always take first billing. 8)

That following night as I was wrapping up my studies, I had remembered what my friend Al Abdulla said in class. Something about Hank Hanegraaff's view of eschatology having changed. This triggered another memory. Probably about a year earlier, sometime in 2004, my friend Chandler Haynie who worked the evening shift at Kwave while engineering "The Bible Answerman," during the day, had told me that Hank had been re-examining his views on eschatology for 9 years now. Starting in about 1995. And that he was going to be coming out with a new book explaining his new view. But he was hesitant to tell me much more.

So...On that early morning in March 2005 I went onto google and did a search on, "Hank Hanegraaff + eschatology." And the first three results I read were the following three articles. And in this order.

Article #1

Article #2

Article #3

The third article takes a few minutes to read but well worth every minute of it. It is a transcript from a call Hank received on "The Bible Answerman," back in 1995. Right about the time Hank began re-examining his understanding of the end-times that led him to author and co-author a number of books that have got the authors of the Left Behind series in such an uproar. Which is dealt with in the first and second article posted above.

And so...It was these three articles that were the final straw that broke the camel's back. My world and life view would be forever changed from this moment forward...

Hindsight is normally 20/20...Day 7

It was the fall of 2003, and I had just begun attending the School of Ministry at Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa. It was a very surreal time in my life. Not only had I begun working what I considered at that time to be my dream job, but I was beginning a course of studies that I was pretty sure would result in my being a Calvary Chapel Pastor.

If you remember, I had mentioned on Day 6 that the School of Ministry was pretty much a full-time job. We attended classes Monday through Friday from 7-10a.m. We also had to spend an hour or two each week in the front office of the church answering the prayer lines. The homework and reading requirements typically meant that we would have to put in a minimum of three hours of study a day. And then there were the Chuck blocks. You're probably scratching your heads asking, "What's a Chuck block?" Chuck blocks were pages filled with questions that were directly related to Chuck Smith's, Thru the Bible teaching series that we had to listen to. The purpose of these questions were to verify that we had listened to all of the teachings, although they never really did check our answers. 8) Gotta love the honor system.

If you've ever listened to any of Chuck Smith's teaching you know that his pace is pretty deliberate. Some people might even say slow. 8) But fortunately for us they had a special series that were at 1.5 times the original speed. The best part of the whole series was when Pastor Chuck would tell a joke. Listening to people laugh at 1.5 times the normal speed was enough to almost make you fall out of your chair the first time you hear it. And then finally by the end of the series you can pretty much finish any sentence that Pastor Chuck starts when he's in the pulpit or on the radio.

So between the hours of school, the reading and homework, working the prayer lines and doing our, "Chuck block's," the School of Ministry was a full-time job. Which pretty much meant that there was no way you could have a full-time job as well. That is unless God decided to work out those details for you like He did with me. You see...God provided me with a job working in the same building as the School of Ministry. It also was a job that allowed me all the time I needed to do my homework and reading while on-air, between breaks. He also worked things out so that my work hours were from 11 p.m. to 7 a.m. Which left me just enough time to gather my books...Run down three flights of stairs and grab a seat.

Oh...And did I forget to say that working for the church meant that all of my tuition was paid for by the church?

I don't know about you...But as far as I am concerned God's hands were all over this, inside and out. There is just no way I could have planned this all out much less worked out all the finer points and details.

And a long night that was...Day 6

That night as I sat in the frigid climate controlled studio at K-Wave...A lot of things were going through my mind. Yes God clearly called me to ministry...It was clear that I needed to prepare myself. And that I needed to "Study to show thyself approved to God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

Clearly, I would have a lot to think about, not only before the sun would rise that morning over the city of Irvine...But over what it was and why God was leading me in the direction that He was.

That following Tuesday, as I was heading into work, I stopped by the offices of the School of Ministry and picked up an application on my way up to my next shift at the station. A stomach full of butterflies and 7 days later I showed up at work to find a letter of acceptance to the Calvary Chapel School of Ministry in my box. I think I can safely say that I truly felt that I had "arrived," that day. Arrived in the sense that I truly felt as though I was clearly walking in the path that God was leading me.

That following September 15th, I began a 2 year long program. It would be an incredible, spiritual journey. What I experienced was like nothing I had experienced up to that point in my life, nor have I experienced it since. It was pure fellowship...Three hours a day...Five days a week. And God bless my beautiful bride Susan, that was supportive of me throughout this whole journey. 8) I couldn't have done it without her.

One of the things that they made very...VERY clear when we applied...And again when we began the School of Ministry, was that it was not going to be an easy journey. That it should, in and of itself be considered a full-time job. And that if we absolutely had to work that it should be part-time if anything. Well...What was I to do now...I was already working full-time at the radio station. Fortunately for me the lions share of the work I was doing was on-air from midnight till 5 a.m., which left me plenty of time to do the required studies that a normal full-time job would have prohibited.

Clearly, God's hand was providentially moving things forward in a way that no one could have foreseen...

One door closes and another one opens...Day 5

Having almost completed my third semester at Long Beach City College in my pursuit of a degree in Speech Communications I began working at K-Wave 107.9 an outreach ministry of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa. This was an incredible opportunity in a number of ways. I was getting to use first hand the skills that I had been learning in school and as a bonus I was getting a front row view of the inner workings of a rather large multi-faceted ministry. It seemed pretty clear that God had me here for a reason.

A few weeks later I was over at L.B.C.C. playing racquetball with my friend Danny Martinez. Something that we had been doing on a regular basis for at least a couple of months. I met Danny in a beginning music theory class that I had taken to fulfill one of my electives. He had recently moved out here from Chicago to South Central Los Angeles as part of a call to plant a multi-racial church. While we were playing he had asked me if I had gotten all of the classes I wanted for the fall. I gazed over at him with a puzzling look on my face and I said, "Ummm...No why?" Needless to say I hadn't opened up a piece of mail from the college explaining that they had a new way of registering for classes and that it would start earlier than previous semesters. Dohhhh...

To my chagrin I was unable to get even one class I needed. The telephone enrollment system had shut me down. I couldn't even get any electives that I could have used to fulfill general studies requirements and underwater basket weaving was just not my style. 8)

And yes...That noise you just heard...That was a door closing.

The following Saturday evening I pulled up to the radio station a little earlier than usual. As I was getting out of my car I ran into one of the security guards that worked for the church. His name was Mark. He had asked me how I was doing and about what was going on in my life. In the course of the conversation I told him how I had been unable to get any of the classes that I needed for the fall semester at L.B.C.C.. He then told me about the Calvary Chapel School of Ministry, and how he had just finished the first of a two year course in pastoral ministry. At this point he had to get going but he said that I should consider attending the School of Ministry and that he would pray for me considering the matter.

That night as I sat in the frigid climate controlled studio at K-Wave, I would have a lot to think about before I would see the sun rise over Irvine.

Hello...God...What now? Day 4

...It was clear that I needed to get ready...that I needed to study. But what exactly did that mean?

I had been working with a friend of mine at that time doing electrical work. He had just recently decided to start his own company and he needed someone to help him out. An apprentice type I guess you could say and I was just that. I knew how to turn a wrench but I was pretty green when it came to doing electrical work. Of course I found out pretty quickly why he needed someone like me. My skinny bag of bones fit very well up in dark attics and down in dank...dusty crawl spaces. I was learning a lot of neat and useful things but it was not the going in the direction that I felt that God was leading me. And that's the funny thing...God...I know that it was you that was speaking to me that day on the 605 freeway...But where do I go now? What's next?

I guess in some sense I was expecting something more supernatural. Not necessarily a Damascus road experience but a detailed itinerary would have been nice. 8) And so without any further explicit direction from God I figured it wouldn't hurt to at least move in the direction of some kind of formal education. And so I enrolled in a summer session, public speaking class at Long Beach City College. I figured if God was going to use me, there was probably a pretty good chance that some form of public speaking would be involved. And with a big mouth like mine, I figured it certainly couldn't hurt to learn how to use it more effectively.

During my third semester at Long Beach City College I started working for Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, at their radio station, K-Wave 107.9. What a cool opportunity this turned out to be. Not only was I getting to use some of the skills that I had been studying for in school but I also got to get first hand experience working in ministry in a mega-church environment. Initially I was hired to do part-time programming and learn about the engineering aspects of the station with Marcos O'Rourke. The second part of that job description never really happened. However two weeks into working there I actually got my first opportunity to be on-air. What a blast that was and yet it was the most nerve-wracking experience of my life. My heart was beating so hard and so fast...I'd swear you could hear it in the recording we made.

That following week I came in to train on one of the weekend overnight shifts with Brian Perez. The weekend overnights is where they like to train people how to be on air personalities. Which is understandable...Mistakes seem to matter the least in the middle of the night. 8) And at first they were many. But over time the butterflies go away and the mistakes come less frequently. Not that you ever become error free in radio but learning how to recover from those mistakes is the key. Within a month of working there I had my own weekend overnight shift.

But as this door had opened for me another one closed quite abruptly...